Goku and Vegeta on their own have to be less than 1% of Beerus in SSB. Vegito is way above Goku and Vegeta that they together aren't remotely as powerful as they are as one being. Take that as you will, of course... To me, if SSJG should have been stated as something far beyond. This thread is archived. Because SSG is still the strongest thing he had fought in millions of years. In the movies Beerus was WAY WAY weaker. The power gap between Vegito and Goku is insane. AU where Potara Fusion hasn't been retconed to one hour and Vegito never unfused inside Majin Buu. hide. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. He might be stronger than Beerus . I doubt he does enough damage to Beerus before he defuses, especially if he uses a powerful attack like the Final Kamehameha and uses up all the power. The problem is superme kai has never seen beerus at full power and if memory serves me right he didnt even know about gods of destruction until elder kai told him about it … report. save. He hadn't been able to use even that much of his power in so long it was refreshing. The "Super" prefix will come after those are retconned. King Kai, who had been watching with bated breath as the two talked gasped and ran forward and slapped Vegito across the back of the head and pushed his arm away. Beerus 36% . It's more like an ascended form that appears identical to base. (Lets think abour Vegito vs Beerus) Or may be have a kioken x 10 over the fusion god form? Beerus spanked the s*** out of a SSJ3 fusion anyway. Rwr!!!!! re: Base Vegito(ROF) VS Beerus Base isn't really a thing for Vegeta or Goku any more, now that they've achieved SSG. IIRC He was pretty evenly matched (albeit definitely superior) with SSJG Goku, with Beerus admitting to using about 70% of his strength. And just purely speculating, I think probably could have gotten beerus to like 50% power. Beerus just manage to survive this Battle Royale (where everyone can attack everyone) partly because of defensive UI. And this was a suppressed Beerus Goku thought fusion was s*** against. For that reason folks is why it does NOT matter if they become STRONGER than Beerus because an appointed God has abilities which will always give them the upper hand. Gogeta would first go SSJ and fail, try SSJ2 and being closer, going for SSJ3 and actually having a chance only to have the fusion as well as their energy drain very fast. I'm pretty sure he would be extremely dissapointed in the Super Saiyan God if that was the case. Sorry bro. If SSJG Goku was able to put a fight with Beerus who used 70% of his power, a SSJG Vegeto just being 2 times stronger than SSJG Goku would probably be enough to surpass Beerus. I'd be really impressed with Beerus transforming into SSJG considering he's not a Saiyan. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Even if the SSB's are only 1% of Beerus at this point, it's more than possible Vegetto could be on par or surpassed Beerus. Anime Fused Zamasu, as well as manga and anime Vegito Blue, should be *absolutely and with no doubt* recognized as stronger than Beerus. People still are completely certain Beerus is a lot stronger than SSGSS Goku Kaioken X10 even though Beerus doesn't seem that confident (but confirms he would win) when Goku turned on Kaioken x2. Vegito is so far beyond everyone else in the original run of DBZ that we have no idea how his power compares to anyone. We've also seen Beerus destroy Zamasu with very little effort. Round 2: Same as above, but this time it is a quicker win for Team Fusion. Because Whis said so. SSJ3 Goku strugled against weaker forms of Buu. Yes, because Whis was talking about how they could fight on par im if they worked together without fusing. SSJ Vegeto destroyed Gohan Buu, Gohan being more powerful than SSJ3 Goku at that time. Dragon Ball Super Broly shows, Gogeta defeating Broly. So we have no way of knowing if vegito comes even close to the guy. Purple cat: 0 Weird, tiny genie thing: 1 (Totallynotchewbacca) Inconclusive: 0 Actually, the extended version of Battle of Gods that aired last weekend had an extra scene where Goku speculated that he and Vegeta probably couldn't beat him, even if they fused. Only because Champa is fat. Grand and Supreme Gods of Destruction. On another note, I hate that DB movies don't have enough time to really do everything that could be done. Vegetto Vs Beerus! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Jiren 14% . No unless Vegito could have went SSJG. Of course they couldn't mention anything from GT but even a SSJ3 Vegeto should be weaker than Beerus. Beerus was infinitely stronger then Present Zamasu. ... Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Share Link. Reply. If Beerus needs to use 50% of his power to overpower SSB Goku, Vegito would be too much for him. While Vegito may have a strength advantage, Beerus can just wipe him from existence. Honestly, if Beerus is stronger than Vegito, it would mean that SSG Goku was less than 1% of Beerus or something...which makes me wonder WHY Beerus enjoyed fighting someone so weak compared to him, makes no sense tbh. I recon even Merged Zamasu would've gotten fucked. Toriyama just wanted to hide that fact to make Beerus still be considered extremely powerful. Above Beerus. 'Hang on Beerus' Vegito said and he reached out and grabbed Beerus by the shoulder. A Vegito vs. Beerus SSJG match would have been interesting, but how it is portrayed I still believe Beerus wins. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Same as the 6-10-15 scale from BoG and any percentages of Beerus' power from that movie. Hey guys, sorry for the long hiatus between this and the last video, my computer screen cracked so I couldn't draw. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Vegito is the Potara Fusion of Son Goku and Vegeta, originally formed to defeat Majin Buu after he had absorbed Gohan, and later reappearing to fight Fusion Zamasu. So SSJG Vegeto would easily win (Whis admits that working together, they … Apparently even when fusing, according to Goku, its not enough. One of U11's Pride Troopers is the same race as Beerus/Champa, so it's possible we'll see what Beerus is capable of vicariously through this new fighter. I believe Whis would still beat Vegito, but SSJB Vegito vs Beerus seems like such horse shit for Beerus to still be stronger. Beerus claps those cheeks. About Broly it is said. Who is to say he isn't able to use Super Saiyan 3? Win by any means necessary. That seems like a trump card for any fight against him. Very convenient for Beerus or Whis not be around when SSJB Vegito emerges to comment on his strenght...like Toriyama was actively trying to conceal that information. Dec 19, 2016. ReddIt. From statements and guidebooks Vegito: -The resulting warrior from Potara fusion is more powerful than the equivalent Fusion Dance result, thus Vegito is stronger than his counterpart Gogeta.-If Vegito (from the Majin Buu Saga) were to fight Gogeta (from Fusion Reborn), Vegito would win if the fight was long, but would lose a short battle.-Vegito and Gogeta are two equally-matched trump cards. I'm hoping that someone can find it in the Anime If it exists. the line isn't in the anime. While all fusions have immense power, Vegito's power is abnormal even by Potara standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. That didnt happen in the anime. I'd be really impressed with Beerus transforming into SSJG considering he's not a Saiyan. So I was thinking about the Beerus vs Goku battle, and I think something was overlooked. Ez pz. I think if later Beerus were to awake again and vegetal is now able to turn god as well, yes i do think he could match beerus this time, with the slight if not minimum chance of an actual win though. Linkedin. The fact is, until we have tangible evidence of just how powerful Beerus is, it's just wild speculation. Supreme kai was the one who stated vegito is perhaps stronger than beerus. I'm surprised that no one has used this argument before. Said in both the movie and Super. In the anime, weaker than Beerus. Ssjg goku said was at 80% and beerus was at 70% it's stated in the movie, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Vegito and Gogeta are most definitely above Beerus at this point, and Champa is weaker than Beerus. I really think SSJB Vegito is stronger than Beerus. if Vegito was an option Goku would have used it and not said fusion wouldn't work. If you consider these facts alone you could think Gogeta is stronger than Vegito but, of course, you can think Goku and Vegeta got stronger since before the … Red-Jirachi-2. If it doesn't, then I'll consider retracting my statement. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. So we all know fusion is very powerful. share. So if they can match him if they work together as separate entities, then surely when fused they coudl actually defeat him. I doubt it, because Hit likely can beat Zamasu and Black solo. Looked to me like he was losing handily to goku once he transformed. I honestly didn't get the feeling he was equal with ssb. Winner gets the last pudding. Super Gohan Buu isn't even able to visibly damage him. However, there is one thing I'm certain: SSJG Vegeto would beat Beerus, maybe without much trouble. SSJ2 Goku >> SSJ2 Caulifla and … Could they beat beerus. If Beerus were to entertain a legit fight with SSB Vegito he may very well be outclassed on a strictly hand to hand or ki or PL basis but at any point in the fight Beerus could decide to destroy or literally erase Vegito. Beerus vs both Vegito and fused zamasu all characters are at their strongest no time limit for vegito battle takes place on supreme kais world. discord.gg/dbz, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. What Beerus did only shows how powerful Ultra Instinct is, and how that's the key for Goku to handle Jiren. By: DomTheSnake. WhatsApp. I'd agree with you, but I'm not sure about the limitations of Beerus's hakai technique. Poll Pure speculation end of Super Vegito vs Beerus vs Jiren (22 votes) Vegito 50% . Personally I find it hard to believe Vegito couldn't at least go toe to toe with Beerus, especially if he uses SSBKK(no reason he can't) but it's just wild guesses at this moment. Beerus is still on an untouchable pedestal sans the Angels and Zen-oh. 6 years ago. Beerus vs Glossaryck Speed Equalized Battle takes place at the snack aisle of your local convenience store. SSB Vegito is probably weaker than Beerus tbh. Ssj4 wasn't a thing at this point so scratch that ideal. If goku and vegeta did potara fusion again and went ss god or even ss3-4. I'm going to be honest, I didn't bother watching the Anime version of ROF because it was such a disappoint in terms of animation that I just didn't want to waste my time. Personally I find it hard to believe Vegito couldn't at least go toe to toe with Beerus, especially if he uses SSBKK(no reason he can't) but it's just wild guesses at this moment. There's no proof Beerus can simply "Hakai" anything he wants. 79% Upvoted. in the anime the whole 5-10-16 scale, the using 70% of beerus power and the goku and vegeta can fight beerus if they work together are gone. And only after this they try asking Shenron for SSJG. With that Beerus turned his back to King Kai and Vegito and began to approach Whis. It's hard to tell. We'll get a lot more insight on just how powerful Beerus is with this new arc. Fancystopperman: 5: 10/22 3:04PM: SDBH Big Bang Mission Episode 8 is out. It will be complete bullshit, but given that Super is BULLSHIT itself, the plot likely will still not allow the MIGHTY VEGETA+GOKU Fusion to surpass the WankGod Beerus. candy vegito vs. buu proves that vegito possess gag power That's not gag power. We also don't even know if Super Vegito is Vegito's strongest form. Vegetto's was likely able to retain his power due to his magic. Fusion would combine both Goku and Vegeta's powers and would result in a much higher increase in strength than them working together in their individual bodies. The fact is, until we have tangible evidence of just how powerful Beerus is, it's just wild speculation. What do you think Vegito’s power level is when he can transforms to god form? Pinterest. So Jiren and the "Beerus race" guy (girl?) Right now it seems that even goku ssbkkx10 is still not a real threat to beerus. Otherwise SSBKKx10 Goku would have already surpassed Beerus, and we know that definitely isn't the case. It be like SSJ3 Gotenk vs … You might be right, I'm not sure. Thus, it's pretty safe to assume that SSB Vegito, (and probably even Merged Zamasu) is stronger than Beerus. We haven't seen Beerus full power, yet alone other hacks he could have & I don't recall the Whis line being used in Super. And I have no idea what is the difference between base Goku and base Vegeto, but it is way more than 2 times. If a fusion is the two power levels multiplied together, Vegeto would surely surpass Beerus in fighting power. DBM Vegito is faaaar weaker than Super Saiyan Blue Vegito and Beerus (heck, maybe even Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta). SSB Vegito vs Beerus, who will win????? 9 comments. Also I seen an article on here somewhere leading to an interview with toriama where he estimates beerus to be ssj2 gogeta strong. Why dont people understand one thing: Hakai. Nobody sees Beerus as the strongest GoD. Bowser vs Galactic Gladiator vs Beerus vs Jorgen von Strangle It's a no-bars battle to the death between these four powerful, godlike combatants. Fusion is an insane boost. I think it's safe to assume that Toppo was the weakest of the Pride Troopers, and he was at least on par with SSB, likely SSBKK as well, but Daishinkan cut the fight short. All the combatants in this fight, including Bowser, are at low 2-C. If this was made into a series of 15-20 episodes, they would have time to make the fight a bit longer, to even try fusion before going SSJG. Who can possibly destroy the God of Destruction: Vegito Vs Beerus. Goku didn't ever appear threatened. With ssj3 it would be a roflstomp. But I guess that's not the case. Beerus interest in Goku/Vegeta makes almost no sense if Vegito isn't even relevant power wise to Beerus. Vegetto, the warrior born from Potara Fusion, finds himself facing the God of Destruction Beerus himself. Will the mortal God of Destruction stand a chance? I believe that Vegetto could defeat Beerus, but would require him going SSJ2 Round 3: Merged Zamasu is fodder when compared to the likes of Beerus. If Beerus is the same strength in Super as he is in BoG, then Vegeto would tear him apart. Beerus would have to be using like 1% of his power or less if Vegito STILL doesn't turn out to be stronger, rather MUCH MUCH stronger than him. are very possibly GoD tier. People gotta stop using statements from BoG + RoF movies, when Super retconned all the scaling from them. In fact, Beerus is only slightly stronger than Champa. That line in RoF wasn't mentioned in DBS, so it's been retconned. Well if Beerus was stated to be around as strong as ssj2 gogeta and the potora fusion was stated to be stronger than the dance fusion, then I believe vegetto would dominate as long as a super saiyan 2 form was reachable. In the manga, possibly on the same general level as Beerus. 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